?Che is dead said...
Here's a video of another high tech auto assembly plant: Fords Camacari assembly plant in Brazil. This plant would have been built in the U.S. except for the objections from the UAW.
?Sprewell said...
Che's video is much better: that's a real factory, not the glorified showcase that VW built. What I'd like to see is a real cost breakdown of why Ford built that factory in Brazil, how much of it was due to labor costs vs regulatory costs, whether due to govt laws or union rules.
?sethstorm said...
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?sethstorm said...
So basically it's a car factory for cars not meant for mere mortals to afford. Now if that was used for cars that regular people could afford, that would be a far better demonstration.
That, and I wonder if it adheres any bit to the rule of the workers being able to afford it - or if they have to settle for the typical I4 golfcart of Europe.
Here's a video of another high tech auto assembly plant: Fords Camacari assembly plant in Brazil.
So that's what passes for a golfcart down there.
I wonder if they have their own Ford Security to commit thuggery on behalf of the company should workers attempt to become more than just slaves.
That kind of supplier integration is a threat as well, for it makes it easier for Ford to treat workers worse by dividing them up.
?Che is dead said...
"I wonder if they have their own Ford Security to commit thuggery on behalf of the company ... That kind of supplier integration is a threat as well, for it makes it easier for Ford to treat workers worse by dividing them up." -- sethstorm
Not to worry, no UAW workers were harmed in the making of this film. Neither were any of the thousands of Brazilians who now have good jobs thanks to the UAWs greed and stupidity.
?sethstorm said...
Che is dead said...
My point is that they have somewhere where the Battle of the Overpass doesn't go in the worker's favor, but that the people & photographs get disappeared. Thus all you might see are happy people with trains all running on time, much like a Potemkin Village.
?Larry G said...
to be fair, two things that have been the initial focus of unions in the US - health care and retirement pensions are not major union issues in many other countries that have universal health care and their own version of social security - and both are entirely portable from one job to the next.
but I had a similar reaction when looking at the video.. I think even "assembly" work is not THAT "clean" but all those car parts that are part of the assembly process are done in steel mills and stamping plants... which are far different looking that the process shown in the videos.
?sethstorm said...
but I had a similar reaction when looking at the video.. I think even "assembly" work is not THAT "clean" but all those car parts that are part of the assembly process are done in steel mills and stamping plants... which are far different looking that the process shown in the videos.
It's for their Phaeton, one of the few models of VW's lineup that isn't a golfcart. Safe to say it costs a ton.
?Ron H. said...
"It's for their Phaeton, one of the few models of VW's lineup that isn't a golfcart. Safe to say it costs a ton."
They sell for around $100k. Whether or not that's "a ton" depends on who you are. I suspect it's out of your price range.
Do you see a problem with cars like these being manufactured for people eager to buy them?
?Ron H. said...
"to be fair, two things that have been the initial focus of unions in the US - health care and retirement pensions are not major union issues in many other countries that have universal health care and their own version of social security - and both are entirely portable from one job to the next."
So *all* the people in a country with universal healthcare are subsidizing my purchase of a car made there, as costs to the manufacturer are lower.
We should thank them for their generosity.
?Larry G said...
" So *all* the people in a country with universal healthcare are subsidizing my purchase of a car made there, as costs to the manufacturer are lower."
well..if you buy a car from them rather than a union car maker in the US... what does that mean?
Source: http://mjperry.blogspot.com/2012/01/modern-automotive-manufacturing.html
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